Lazy Monk - Guild Wars Forums

Green Gnight · Jul 16, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?

Age · Jul 16, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34

Nope just if you went off of radar.

riana · Jul 17, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

I am brand new to guild wars. I ordered prophecies yesterday from circuit city online.

I am debating between starting an elementalist or a monk. I really would like to play an offensive minded caster, without completely abandoning defense or healing. And of course I want to make myself attractive to parties.

Can anyone give me some advice so I can make a wise character selection?

thanks,
riana

fujin · Jul 17, 2007, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by riana

I am brand new to guild wars. I ordered prophecies yesterday from circuit city online.

I am debating between starting an elementalist or a monk. I really would like to play an offensive minded caster, without completely abandoning defense or healing. And of course I want to make myself attractive to parties.

Can anyone give me some advice so I can make a wise character selection?

thanks,
riana

Definitely Elementalist in my opinion. They have everything you said you want in your post... except for healing, good healing that is

But you could always use healing spells from your second profession.

God Apprentice · Jul 17, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23

Riana best bet is to make a Elementalist, or if you want a challenge (for first starting) make a Mesmer.

At the OP Monks shouldn't be lazy >.>

bart · Jul 17, 2007, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Gnight

monk who sits on the backlines.

I thought that is what monks do?

Smile Like Umean It · Jul 17, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57

Maybe he means like, a bonder.
Cast bonds and then just sit there.

That's not really learning the game, but who am I to tell someone how to play?

Oh, and no you don't lose drops unless you're off the radar,but you will lose xp if you're not involved in the fight somehow.

Griff Mon · Jul 17, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41

You can't really play the early part of the game as a bonder anyway. No one needs one or knows what one is. They just need healers and if you solo anything in the early part, you are gonna need your smites up.

Hodor · Jul 17, 2007, 07:31 AM // 07:31

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Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It

Maybe he means like, a bonder.
Cast bonds and then just sit there.

Never played a bonder then I take it XD

Iuris · Jul 17, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Khem, I recently made my monk, so I still remember the misconceptions I used to have about the class.

The only monk that isn't a FULL time job is a smiter. ALL other monks will have you constantly monitor your skills and use the right skills at the right moment.

For a breakdown of what a monk does:
A) Smiter. The smiter acts like any other offensive class - use skills that recharge on the nearest enemy group. Simple.
B) Healer. All healer types, even Light of Deliverance ones, constantly keep their eyes on the party health bars so they can use the right skill at the right moment on the right character. Requires lots of reflexes.
C) Protector. Protectors are just like the healers. The only thing is they require less in reflexes. YOu still need all your attention focused on the party.
D) Bonder. The bonder first spends a minute casting his bonds on the whole party. After that, he'll have at least -4 energy regeneration. The whole game after that is hitting Blessed signet and Mantra of inscriptions at just the right time so that you don't lose the enchantments. That's routine. However, you ALSO need to constantly keep checking that all the enchantments are still in place so that you recast the ones that enemies take down. It's a busy job...

Water Angel · Jul 17, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56

if you think prot monk is lasy job staying at backlines u bettr no monk at all and change caracter...same for bonder.

no real monk have some lasy ass job, cept ones diserving be kicked of party for Alesia.

God Apprentice · Jul 17, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Green Gnight

I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?

Then when I thought about it I figured this was a PvE type monk. PvP prots that are lazy usually get the boot

Xenex Xclame · Jul 17, 2007, 09:26 AM // 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iuris

B) Healer. All healer types, even Light of Deliverance ones, constantly keep their eyes on the party health bars so they can use the right skill at the right moment on the right character. Requires lots of reflexes.
C) Protector. Protectors are just like the healers. The only thing is they require less in reflexes. YOu still need all your attention focused on the party.

I think you have those two mixed up.
In short

Healer looks at the party window and when the red bars go down they make them go up again.

Protection you watch the playing field as a whole, when you see someone is gonna take damage you throw a RoF on them before they get hit so the red bar doesn't even go down,If you see they are gonna get spiked you throw Spirit bond on them , or Protective Spirit, your choice.

With prot you have to anticipate what is gonna happen and act accordingly before it happens with healing you have to let the action happen first and then act. ( not saying your finger shouldn't be on that healing skill until they get hit,you just have to let them get hit first and then press)

There is a reason why most Prot skills are 1/4 sec cast and healing skills are 1 second, prot is there so you can squeeze your spell in before the enemies next hit.

quickmonty · Jul 17, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Lazy players are known by another name .... leechers. Nobody likes a leecher, and they will be shunned from parties and kicked out of any decent guild. Every member of a party has to participate and carry his weight.

Iuris · Jul 17, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32

@ Xenex

Different builds will demand different things and different playstyles.

But be that as it may: we appear to certainly agree that playing ANY monk takes a lot of work, making lazy less of an option

fujin · Jul 17, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23

If you really want to be a lazy monk (Although you definitely shouldn't), you can get a good healing monk/rit on your team and make that person do all the work.

Smile Like Umean It · Jul 17, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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Originally Posted by Hodor

Never played a bonder then I take it XD

No, I've played one a lot actually.
It's quite easy.

Twinsoul · Jul 17, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

I'm a lazy monk. I yell at my guild when I actually need to cast spells.

lennymon · Jul 17, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58

When I'm feeling lazy I play monk... snaps my a$$ right out of it and charges me up.

. Bonder isn't lazy, too much button mashing but unless it's DoA or something it *is* boring due to the button mashing only being 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1....
Prot on the other hand it extremely invigorating. I love that there are so many more options for monkage since NF.

Age · Jul 17, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Water Angel

if you think prot monk is lasy job staying at backlines u bettr no monk at all and change caracter...same for bonder.

no real monk have some lasy ass job, cept ones diserving be kicked of party for Alesia.

Rofl I find this funny kicked for Alesia.

There is nothing wrong with bonder and besides that it was protective bond that started the first 55 build not spirit.It is a lot like being an MM in way.

Jul 16, 2007, 10:22 PM // 22:22	#1
Green Gnight Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Nov 2005	Lazy Monk I want to be a lazy prot monk who sits on the backlines. Do I lose drops if I never attack the target?

Jul 17, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51	#3
riana Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Jul 2007	newbie question I am brand new to guild wars. I ordered prophecies yesterday from circuit city online. I am debating between starting an elementalist or a monk. I really would like to play an offensive minded caster, without completely abandoning defense or healing. And of course I want to make myself attractive to parties. Can anyone give me some advice so I can make a wise character selection? thanks, riana

Jul 16, 2007, 10:34 PM // 22:34	#2
Age Hall Hero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: California Canada/BC Guild: STG Administrator Profession: Mo/	Nope just if you went off of radar.

Jul 17, 2007, 01:23 AM // 01:23	#5
God Apprentice Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: Mo/N	Riana best bet is to make a Elementalist, or if you want a challenge (for first starting) make a Mesmer. At the OP Monks shouldn't be lazy >.>

Jul 17, 2007, 02:57 AM // 02:57	#7
Smile Like Umean It Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: E/Rt	Maybe he means like, a bonder. Cast bonds and then just sit there. That's not really learning the game, but who am I to tell someone how to play? Oh, and no you don't lose drops unless you're off the radar,but you will lose xp if you're not involved in the fight somehow.

Jul 17, 2007, 05:41 AM // 05:41	#8
Griff Mon Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In the Elfen Forests of Washington State Guild: Damage Radius Profession: N/	You can't really play the early part of the game as a bonder anyway. No one needs one or knows what one is. They just need healers and if you solo anything in the early part, you are gonna need your smites up.

Jul 17, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20	#10
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	Khem, I recently made my monk, so I still remember the misconceptions I used to have about the class. The only monk that isn't a FULL time job is a smiter. ALL other monks will have you constantly monitor your skills and use the right skills at the right moment. For a breakdown of what a monk does: A) Smiter. The smiter acts like any other offensive class - use skills that recharge on the nearest enemy group. Simple. B) Healer. All healer types, even Light of Deliverance ones, constantly keep their eyes on the party health bars so they can use the right skill at the right moment on the right character. Requires lots of reflexes. C) Protector. Protectors are just like the healers. The only thing is they require less in reflexes. YOu still need all your attention focused on the party. D) Bonder. The bonder first spends a minute casting his bonds on the whole party. After that, he'll have at least -4 energy regeneration. The whole game after that is hitting Blessed signet and Mantra of inscriptions at just the right time so that you don't lose the enchantments. That's routine. However, you ALSO need to constantly keep checking that all the enchantments are still in place so that you recast the ones that enemies take down. It's a busy job...

Jul 17, 2007, 08:56 AM // 08:56	#11
Water Angel Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Paris Profession: Me/E	if you think prot monk is lasy job staying at backlines u bettr no monk at all and change caracter...same for bonder. no real monk have some lasy ass job, cept ones diserving be kicked of party for Alesia.

Jul 17, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52	#14
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Lazy players are known by another name .... leechers. Nobody likes a leecher, and they will be shunned from parties and kicked out of any decent guild. Every member of a party has to participate and carry his weight.

Jul 17, 2007, 11:32 AM // 11:32	#15
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	@ Xenex Different builds will demand different things and different playstyles. But be that as it may: we appear to certainly agree that playing ANY monk takes a lot of work, making lazy less of an option

Jul 17, 2007, 12:23 PM // 12:23	#16
fujin Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hong Kong, all the way in Asia :O Guild: Officer of United Jedi [UJ] Profession: E/	If you really want to be a lazy monk (Although you definitely shouldn't), you can get a good healing monk/rit on your team and make that person do all the work.

Jul 17, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44	#18
Twinsoul Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sector ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha Guild: Rogue Clan [Rg] Profession: Mo/N	I'm a lazy monk. I yell at my guild when I actually need to cast spells.

Jul 17, 2007, 04:58 PM // 16:58	#19
lennymon Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle Guild: Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	When I'm feeling lazy I play monk... snaps my a$$ right out of it and charges me up. . Bonder isn't lazy, too much button mashing but unless it's DoA or something it is boring due to the button mashing only being 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1.... Prot on the other hand it extremely invigorating. I love that there are so many more options for monkage since NF.